turkish translation plz

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    Beso said:

    Red face turkish translation plz

    hi friends can someone translate this sentence to me plz
    Ölüm dediğin nedir ki gülüm ben senin için yaşamayı göze almışım artık vazgeçtim ölmeye geldim sana geldim elifim***
    thnx my friends
    Her sabah bir dev masalında ..uyanınca
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    my rose,whats the mean of death..i ventured to live for you but l gave up from now on l came to you, i came to die my Elif.

    if you dont udnerstand meaning...i will try to explain much more
     
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    thnx marmaris sooo much i think i got the meaning but what does Elif mean :$ thnx again
    Her sabah bir dev masalında ..uyanınca
    Hep çocuk kalmak kurtulmak
     
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    i searched for Elif n i found it's the first letter in arabic alphabet i get it it's now
    but what does that mean in the sentence does it mean something like my first love or what
    sorry that ask too much
    Her sabah bir dev masalında ..uyanınca
    Hep çocuk kalmak kurtulmak
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beso View Post
    but what does that mean in the sentence does it mean something like my first love or what
    elif is a proper name for girls. here it's sweetheart's name.
     
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    ah i see i got it now thnx soooo much ilkin
    Her sabah bir dev masalında ..uyanınca
    Hep çocuk kalmak kurtulmak
     
  7. ilkin said:

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    rica ederim. (a common reply to thanks, meaning something like "don't mention it")

    one thing i forgot to mention: yes, indeed, elif is the first letter of arabic (and ottoman) alphabeth (greek alpha, hebrew aleph). since it resembles arabic numeral one, or 1 without the strokes, in sufi tradition it's regarded as a symbol of god's unity, and thus, of god himself. yunus emre, the turkish mystic poet, says,

    dört kitabın manası
    bellidir bir elifte
    sen elifi bilmezsin
    bu nice okumaktır?

    yirmi dokuz hece
    okursun uçtan uca
    sen elif dersin hoca
    manası ne demektir? (*)

    which means

    the meaning of the four books (ie, the old and the new testaments, the book of psalms and the quran)
    is evident in an elif
    you don't know the elif
    what sort of study is this?

    twenty nine syllables (ie, letters of the alphabeth)
    you read from end to end
    you say elif, o scholar!
    what does it mean?

    karacaoğlan, the famous turkish minstrel (ozan), apparently had a sweetheart whose name was elif. one of his wellknown poems about elif is below:

    İncecikten bir kar yağar
    Tozar Elif Elif diye
    Deli gönül abdal olmuş
    Gezer Elif Elif diye

    Elif'in uğru nakışlı
    Yavru balaban bakışlı
    Yayla çiçeği kokuşlu
    Kokar Elif Elif diye

    Elif kaşlarını çatar
    Gamzesi sineme batar
    Ak elleri kalem tutar
    Yazar Elif Elif diye

    Evlerinin önü çardak
    Elif'in elinde bardak
    Sanki yeşil başlı ördek
    Yüzer Elif Elif diye

    Karac'oğlan eğmelerin
    Gönül vermez değmelerin
    İliklemiş düğmelerin
    Çözer Elif Elif diye

    (*) this sentence is grammatically malformed. the correct form should have been "manası nedir?" or "elif ne demektir?"
    Last edited by ilkin; 01-26-2008 at 01:47 PM.
     
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    WOow this really v helpeful thnx soooooo much ilkin
    it's first time i knew bout that sufi tradition
    n i want to ask another thing
    i notice that every time it's said "kitabın" it refers to quran or holy books in general i got that
    but i wanna ask in arabic we say "kitab= book"
    so what the word book i mean not holy book or quraan
    thnx sooo much again
    Her sabah bir dev masalında ..uyanınca
    Hep çocuk kalmak kurtulmak
     
  9. ilkin said:

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    you are right: kitap was borrowed from arabic, along with a number of its derivatives. in general, it means a book, any book. in turkish, we don't have a special word that both means book and exclusively refers to the quran, like "the bible." it's inferred from the context whether it refers to the quran or not.

    some contexts are as follows:

    when someone say another "kitapsız!" meaning "without book or bookless," it's an insult, if not among friends, implying "you have no faith in the quran."

    "allahıma, kitabıma," literally, "to my god, to my book" is an oath, meaning "by my god, by my book."

    "kitaba el basmak," literally "to press hand on the book," is to swear by placing one's hand on the quran. (caution: this is just an idiom, not a common or usual practice. no one actually places his/her hand on the quran when [s]he swears. i've never seen anybody doing it apart from the movies.)

    "dört kitap=the four books" is almost always the four religious books (among muslims, as you might have already known it, the book of psalms is considered a separate book).

    as barış manço says in his song "benden öte=beyond me"

    Dört kitaptan başlayalım istersen gel söze
    Orda öyle bir isim var ki kuldan öte kuldan ziyade
    Onu düşün ona sığın o senden öte benden ziyade

    come, let's begin talking with the four books if you wish
    there's a name there that's beyond man, more than man (*)
    think of him, seek refuge to him, he is beyond you, more than me

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho60b_WJ4bs

    (*) man: original word is "kul," arabic "3abd" as in "3abd allah," but english lacks such a word that describes man's status before god.
     
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    thnx ilkin sooo much this really helpful for me n i got all of it even "kitaba el basmak" as we still use it
    n even "dört kitap" first time i know bout thier is 4 books from a turkish song for mahsun n searched bout that
    thnx again i really wish one day i could speak turkish i know this is hard but all i can do now is try to concenterate in lyrics n try to understand it n try to find words in turkish close to arabic words
    thnx for helping me
    Her sabah bir dev masalında ..uyanınca
    Hep çocuk kalmak kurtulmak